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bib



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Is the screen effective removing static?
My SJ has serious clump problem.


many coffee lovers make their own screen for their grinder;
thats why M30 no doser and dose when grind 1 completed !!

THX
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no, clumping will affect the result.

please suggest how

after you tamp, there are no clumps anymore, since the grinder is mignon with quite even grind. Wink


First thing first, I'm only a new hand, my opinions are mostly based on my reading of different forums and blogs, and little expreience on espresso making..

In my understanding, clumps affects the even-ess of distribution, in minor degree.

but than, I agree that, it is not the problem that Mr. ch8444 need to solve right now.

Just my 2 cents
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Is the screen effective removing static?
My SJ has serious clump problem.


many coffee lovers make their own screen for their grinder;
thats why M30 no doser and dose when grind 1 completed !!

THX


any metal wire screen connected to the grinder body will do the trick i assume?
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Same function.

Mazzer one looks nicer.

Mini E Type A does better job.

M3 Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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no, clumping will affect the result.

please suggest how

after you tamp, there are no clumps anymore, since the grinder is mignon with quite even grind. Wink


First thing first, I'm only a new hand, my opinions are mostly based on my reading of different forums and blogs, and little expreience on espresso making..

In my understanding, clumps affects the even-ess of distribution, in minor degree.

but than, I agree that, it is not the problem that Mr. ch8444 need to solve right now.

Just my 2 cents
Wink

no offence, of course Wink
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no offence, of course Wink


No hard feeling Wink

In order not to hijack this thread, here is my comment:

After looking at the videos, Like other c-hing has said, I think tamping is the area that ?? may need to work on. Perhaps a lighter tamp?

Just my 2c
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Ha ha, sometimes I tamp really hard... Laughing
and sometimes I tamp not hard enough. Very inconsistent.

Actually, another problem is that I am not familiar with how to flat the powder by finger.
I watched so many videos, they are all done easily and quickly. For me, I just swiped so much powder to the table (but not inside portafilter), and sometimes press the powder down by finger accidentally. It is not as easy as I imagine...
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?????? tamp ???????? tamper ? tamp ??????????
12.5g - 13.5g ??????????? tamp ? d.
??????? youtube, d ? tamp ??? (????) ????????????
????? Rolling Eyes

Example of tamping:
52" ? 1'32" (????)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiEiQbSm-gc&NR=1
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?????? tamp ???????? tamper ? tamp ??????????
12.5g - 13.5g ??????????? tamp ? d.
??????? youtube, d ? tamp ??? (????) ????????????
????? Rolling Eyes

Example of tamping:
52" ? 1'32" (????)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiEiQbSm-gc&NR=1


That should not be a reference at all, the basket and tamper are different.
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?? ! fresh??tamper?????d?,????tamper??,??????
10mm(1cm)?? ! ????tamp???tamper?? !
??4020?filter?????????58mm filter???,??????? !
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Thank you.
??????? tamp ? "??" d?
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?????video ?dosing, ????reference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnsBYS5nVug&NR=1
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?????video ?dosing, ????reference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnsBYS5nVug&NR=1


Thank you, dennistam.
You are right, the video is about dosing.
I watched already, and watched many other video about dosing. Then, I tried many different ways. Now dosing and distributing becomes easier.
However, there is still no good tamping example for 4020's portafilter that I can learn from. I cannot find an easy, repeatable and accurate way to perform a good tamping, but the only way is trial and error, and hard working. I guess. Rolling Eyes
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????????????, ????????. ????? ^^

????d???, ????????, ????????. ??tamper ?? (???landy ??), ???, ??????tamp ??, ?????, ??????????, ???????????tamp, ??????????, ?????????, ????????d????tamp ???. ???????????.

????????????tamp??, ?????tamping ?????, ?????????????, ???????, ??d ???????.. ??????????, ??????, ??????? ^^
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I see.
Very valuable advice. Thanks!
I will try. Wink
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