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SoloC



註冊時間: 2008-04-25
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發表發表於: 星期三 五月 09, 2012 1:49 am    文章主題: Budget 一萬你會點玩? 引言回覆

我有個frd想進軍Espresso.

我想買grinder higher level than rocky, and a HX machine.

is it do able in Hong Kong?
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CoffeeRider



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發表發表於: 星期三 五月 09, 2012 3:11 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

Expobar Office pulsar ~ $7,700 +
Mignon manual grinder ~ $3,080 = $10,780 Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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SoloC



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發表發表於: 星期三 五月 09, 2012 3:30 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

CoffeeRider 寫到:
Expobar Office pulsar ~ $7,700 +
Mignon manual grinder ~ $3,080 = $10,780 Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


I was thinking something similar like that because I have a Pulsar also.
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發表發表於: 星期三 五月 09, 2012 3:52 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

What kind of "similar like that"??
Why not the pulsar as u?? so he can share your experience!! Wink
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SoloC



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發表發表於: 星期三 五月 09, 2012 3:58 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

CoffeeRider 寫到:
What kind of "similar like that"??
Why not the pulsar as u?? so he can share your experience!! Wink


It will be quite difficult. She will have to fly to U.S to use it. I have a Pulsar and a Mazzer Major.

Similar, I mean the set up you created.
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What will be difficult even she's to use this combination in US??
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SoloC



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發表發表於: 星期三 五月 09, 2012 10:40 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

Oh I thought you mean using my pulsar for espresso machine.

I mean she is living in Hong Kong, and my set up is in USA. So it will impossible for her to use my set up.

Anyway, any other suggestion? or should I go second hand?
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SoloC 寫到:
Oh I thought you mean using my pulsar for espresso machine.

I mean she is living in Hong Kong, and my set up is in USA. So it will impossible for her to use my set up.

Anyway, any other suggestion? or should I go second hand?


No, i mean she can buy a new set in HK, but the same combination as you(not with you) , so u can share the experience!! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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發表發表於: 星期三 五月 09, 2012 11:56 pm    文章主題: 引言回覆

Better start from the lower grade equipment then upgrade half a year later to actually feel the improvement you could get by the upgrade.
First 600N + a cheap Gaggia
Then upgrade grinder, and later a HX.
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600N + Cheap Gaggia ->
700S + Gaggia Classic ->
Mignon + HX (Oscar) ->
SJ + E61 HX ->
Robur + Synesso 1gp

Why NOT 1 step to the destination ?
Mignon/700S/SJ/ + Pulsa or ExpobarIII ??

upgrade theory... concept... $...

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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I agree that~ Buy the stuff as Best as you can in the Budget will save your money!! Wink
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發表發表於: 星期五 五月 11, 2012 1:18 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

Ya upgrading is a painful time consuming process. Ok I think I will suggest he to get an Expobar and a decent grinder
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發表發表於: 星期五 五月 11, 2012 8:07 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

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Ya upgrading is a painful time consuming process. Ok I think I will suggest he to get an Expobar and a decent grinder


Upgrading is in fact a learning process. The money saved probably can't buy the fun and experience/knowledge obtained. Yet, I would think the step about getting a EC155/Gaggia could be skipped. Well, just start with a HX and 600N first. Then, after a few months, change the 600N to Mignon or something better. The 600N can still be used as a grinder for drip or just sell it for a loss of $300 (cheaper than attending any coffee course but you can definitely learn more)
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發表發表於: 星期五 五月 11, 2012 9:47 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

I'm new to the coffee world. I'm now using a hario grinder + french press. I'm also doing research on expresso equipments, and am thinking about the same as many of you suggested: Expobar Office Pulsar / Leva 1 + Eureka Mignon.

However, by saying that "Upgrading is in fact a learning process. The money saved probably can't buy the fun and experience/knowledge obtained.", does it mean that there's something we could learn from a EC155 but not from an Office Pulsar (I know you said EC155 could be skipped, but just want to clarify), and from 600N but not from Mignon?

Thank you.

BTW since I have to take care of my daughters in the morning (don't really trust the maid and don't want my girls to like the maid more than she likes us), I usually only make coffee during weekends and holidays.
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tucuxi 寫到:
I'm new to the coffee world. I'm now using a hario grinder + french press. I'm also doing research on expresso equipments, and am thinking about the same as many of you suggested: Expobar Office Pulsar / Leva 1 + Eureka Mignon.

However, by saying that "Upgrading is in fact a learning process. The money saved probably can't buy the fun and experience/knowledge obtained.", does it mean that there's something we could learn from a EC155 but not from an Office Pulsar (I know you said EC155 could be skipped, but just want to clarify), and from 600N but not from Mignon?

Thank you.

BTW since I have to take care of my daughters in the morning (don't really trust the maid and don't want my girls to like the maid more than she likes us), I usually only make coffee during weekends and holidays.


600N磨粉中上唔算太均勻, 亦無doser, 若果dosing及tamping得唔好, 個extraction就好易睇得出, 咁樣會迫你改善自己上述兩樣煮espresso的必要的動作

Mignon磨出來比較600N勻好多, 亦有doser可以幫你dosing, 就算DOSE/TAMP得未好理想, 個Extraction都唔會太離譜。假設一步到呢個位, 可能會miss咗某啲重要基本工。因為即使你用Mignon, 或是其他再靚的器材, 基本工對perfect extraction仍是最重要的, 無論用乜器材都係。

味道方面, 先飲慣咗600N, 一上Mignon果下, 會"嘩"一聲, 心諗, 做乜多咗咁多味道。
飲慣Mignon後, 再上其他的, 又再"嘩"多次。

機方面, 平機係設計/用料差啲, 出水溫度唔穩定, 蒸氣唔夠力, 出水壓力過多, 呢啲都係物理弱點或缺憾。你用耐咗某部Cheap機, 只係學咗點樣overcome/trick/turnaround果部機的設計弱點, 去到其他機呢啲trick未必有用, 俾少啲錢係搞到自己, 但學唔到乜嘢。
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