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should I upgrade my Grinder?
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Kyoto



註冊時間: 2013-12-15
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發表發表於: 星期二 一月 07, 2014 4:12 am    文章主題: should I upgrade my Grinder? 引言回覆

Been using my new Rocket R58 for a few weeks now. Having been matching with my Eureka Mignon Manual. Mainly an expresso/milk based drink person with 2 to 3 cups a day home use. Would I gain much by trading in the Eureka for the new Baratza Forte AP ?

The Rocket distributor whom sold me the R58 tells me my grinder is not good enough for the R58.
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發表發表於: 星期二 一月 07, 2014 1:59 pm    文章主題: Re: should I upgrade my Grinder? 引言回覆

Kyoto 寫到:
Been using my new Rocket R58 for a few weeks now. Having been matching with my Eureka Mignon Manual. Mainly an expresso/milk based drink person with 2 to 3 cups a day home use. Would I gain much by trading in the Eureka for the new Baratza Forte AP ?

The Rocket distributor whom sold me the R58 tells me my grinder is not good enough for the R58. bullshit la Laughing Laughing

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發表發表於: 星期二 一月 07, 2014 3:11 pm    文章主題: 引言回覆

Any more constructive advices please?
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發表發表於: 星期二 一月 07, 2014 3:22 pm    文章主題: 引言回覆

如果升級,起碼super caimano 75mm flat burr, 或其他68mm conical burr 以上grinder la

Hg one都是好選擇,83mm mazzer conical burr
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如果升級,起碼super caimano 75mm flat burr, 或其他68mm conical burr 以上grinder la

Hg one都是好選擇,83mm mazzer conical burr
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發表發表於: 星期二 一月 07, 2014 6:59 pm    文章主題: 引言回覆

想精益求精,upgrade磨豆機無可厚非,質素更勝Mignon嘅高階機市面上多多有得揀,哩度亦大把魔鬼師兄會提供大量魔鬼好建議(例如啤啤兄 Twisted Evil Laughing ),但如果閣下嘅原因係因為賣R58嗰位仁兄一句"Mignon配唔起R58"就實在好難認同,揻除所有複雜嘅資料數據唔講,最最簡單嘅實例就喺8樓,無論係同R58級數相近嘅expobar跳升至近十皮嘢一部嘅頂級Synesso雙頭,喺旁邊拍住上嘅都係一部Mignon之嘛,無論成哥親自出手定係由其他資深師兄操刀,一樣可以沖出滿意嘅一杯(其實何只滿意,小弟飲過最好嘅esp,無記錯都係出自哩個組合咋),試問咁點可能話Mignon滿足唔到R58嘅要求呢??
我建議Kyoto兄出手前抽啲時間喺哩度刨多陣舊文至再決定啦!!講多句,啤啤兄之前提嗰類機種至係Mignon最正路嘅upgrade之選,講真我覺得Baratza Forte AP似Downgrade多啲 Laughing ,就算比佢個研磨質素真係好過Mignon,估計都係相差無幾,Baratza Forte AP賣得貴只係電子功能多,唔值哩個價反而仲更易壞㖭 Wink

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發表發表於: 星期三 一月 08, 2014 1:46 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

thank you all for the comments. I guess one reason for the thought of changing grinder is perhaps to get a better "electrical" help with the "time" and "weight" grind functions. I really don't know if rather the Baratza will give me better grind quality or not, that's why I ask.
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發表發表於: 星期三 一月 08, 2014 2:31 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

放心,高階磨一樣可以買有訂量功能的
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發表發表於: 星期三 一月 08, 2014 3:42 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

Baratza products was under served and over priced, to me, in a rather extreme vs the US (Encore is around HK$1,700 vs around US$130 in the US) similar to what Eureka Mignon got treated in the US (marketed by Nuova Simonelli over there).

So u will always run into different thinking and idea all the time asking local. In order to get their point, try the products out. U can get a hand on experience at Fresh. If u prefer English, try Sat afternoon where more coffee lovers are likely to be there n chances of help on English speakers. See for urself whether u maximize the potential of ur setup before u move on.

However this is a roaster afterall, not shop selling the stuff only. U will need to wait till they have time to talk to u. In the meantime it won't hurt as some enthusiast will pull coffee for fun n ask u to help him by drinking the coffee n asking for ur opinion. It is a coffee lover informal get together of sort.
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Kyoto



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發表發表於: 星期三 一月 08, 2014 6:40 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

Thanks for the advice. Fresh is an cafe? Where is its location please?
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發表發表於: 星期三 一月 08, 2014 11:21 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

This webboard that u posted belongs to Fresh/hkcoffee.com.

Fresh is a roaster and equipment seller, not a cafe. Fresh is an agent for Synesso in HK.

Fresh itself has been known in Hong Kong for so long on that they are more than welcome for coffee lover to make a visit even u don't plan to buy the stuff on the spot.

A few shop in hk that offers a hand on experience; one of them is Fresh.
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Kyoto



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發表發表於: 星期三 一月 08, 2014 3:10 pm    文章主題: 引言回覆

Thanks guys. I always thought the site was operated by Landy and shing gor. Sorry that I didn't know the company behind them.
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發表發表於: 星期三 一月 08, 2014 4:35 pm    文章主題: 引言回覆

forte is just an upgrade of vario
the burr is same as vario
but long ago people here already commended that the taste by vario is worse than mignon
so forte is not a good choice for your upgrade
and for home use, I really think that those electronic timer or weight dosing is useless as you need to fill up your bean hopper.
Personally, I weight the bean and grind directly before each shot
that's why I am using the HG-ONE
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Kyoto 寫到:
Thanks guys. I always thought the site was operated by Landy and shing gor. Sorry that I didn't know the company behind them.
Well, the company is also operated by Landy and Shing Gor too~ LOL!
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Seems like there's a member here just upgraded the mignon manual to zenith club e. That sounds like a better upgrade path to enter the electrical road without compromising on grind quality?
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